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Post by Vitsheep on May 3, 2017 21:18:32 GMT -5
I suppose Pie's right that as far as we know, no one's been murdered, so there is no murderer... I thought it was Alice and Zack at first, too, but no. There's a few too many inconsistencies with that. My murder-mystery-boner is saying no. But I also don't have an alternative. Joining late puts me at a huge disadvantage with data to work with...
If I had to accuse someone, it would be Julia.
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Post by Just14 on May 3, 2017 21:20:51 GMT -5
Ooh, so you're suggesting it was a player this whole time?
There...well, there haven't been any confirmed murders. That's true. But there still are missing people.
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Post by Vitsheep on May 3, 2017 21:25:07 GMT -5
Ooh, so you're suggesting it was a player this whole time? Suddenly some short, quirky, annoying girl shows up. She almost immediately gets on the trail of the investigative team. Targeting their most derpy link for information. Like a homing missile. Almost gets the team caught by the police. She says she was hospitalized before, and that's why she's just joining school. But that could just be a cover, right? No one can confirm or account for her movements beforehand. Think about it - did Raine or Freya or any of the others ever see her there? Hangs out at a tattoo parlor, with a convicted felon. Doesn't have any close friends, despite living here a while. Gets close to one of the most vulnerable, potentially manipulable other students - and one with a rep. A perfect fall guy.
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Post by Malefio on May 3, 2017 21:49:03 GMT -5
>Accusing Julia
How?
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Post by Awkward on May 3, 2017 21:51:39 GMT -5
The dog is suspect.
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Post by Just14 on May 3, 2017 21:58:20 GMT -5
Same way you can accuse Somnis I guess? A player is a player. No way to tell what their objective is.
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Post by Vitsheep on May 3, 2017 22:05:19 GMT -5
I'm not sure if you're joking. But he's definitely on my list. She's awful quick to accuse Somnis of stuff and dismiss her accusations of there even being a murderer as nonsense... People seem to rely on her to be the brains of the operation, putting her in an ideal position to manipulate and mislead. I don't know the events with Galleon and Julia being kidnapped... but there's potentially time she's not accounted for. I also don't remember her movements on the day Karl was kidnapped. She has the knowledge, positioning, and skills to move unnoticed, track movements, know when and how to strike, and evade detection.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 22:06:23 GMT -5
I love how noone accuses the edgy kid cause it's too obvious.
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Post by Awkward on May 3, 2017 22:10:13 GMT -5
It's not a joke. The dog is wack to me.
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Post by Vitsheep on May 3, 2017 22:17:29 GMT -5
Eh... Remember that I'm missing a ton of information from stuff I either saw from Somnis' perspective or missed entirely. So...
Going based off what Somnis knows? Alice. Going on murder mystery tropes and structure, Julia. Going on my gut? I'm missing a large enough piece of the puzzle I can't know yet, and it'll all click soon enough.
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Post by mrfuzz111 on May 3, 2017 22:39:46 GMT -5
Didn't we already discover that Zack has a doppelgänger? If anything I'd suspect them over any of the investigation team.
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Post by Vitsheep on May 3, 2017 22:49:41 GMT -5
Alice also had a doppelganger. And Somnis told everyone that she overheard a guy and girl plotting to eliminate Lance, and that the girl called the guy Zach. But no one seemed to believe her...
I don't like them for murderers. Seeing as Alice is MIA and presumably-real Zach's in a prison cell fixing to be executed. In case people forgot that. Unwilling accomplices, maybe. But they definitely aren't the masterminds.
I actually have a strong suspicion based largely on something Natsumi saw that night, but I'm keeping it to myself. For now. Because there's a good possibility it's literally impossible and I just don't know that because of stuff I missed.
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Post by mrfuzz111 on May 3, 2017 23:11:10 GMT -5
I think you misunderstood, I meant that the doppelgängers themselves are the most likely culprits, not the real Zack and Alice. Assuming they're from the Other World they have a reason to hate humans, the fact that they can disguise themselves means that it's easy for them to slip under the radar, and from a gameplay perspective it means nobody is going to suddenly lose all of their Soul Links with an NPC because it turns out that NPC was the killer all along and was merely pretending to be their friend to get close to them.
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Post by Vitsheep on May 3, 2017 23:31:51 GMT -5
Oh... Hm... That would make a certain logical sense, but... Somnis and Tab eliminated a doppelganger of each. If more doppelgangers pop up... eh, before running with that theory, let's look at something else.
For that to be true, Zach and Alice would have had to have been captured before the soccer game where Somnis kidnapped La- erm, took Lance into protective custody, we'll say. Otherwise they'd risk being discovered - assuming they don't shift forms at will, which I'm making because eh. And I feel like there's something that doesn't match up with that assumption. Somnis had a very... personal interaction with Zach shortly before that. Actually, that may have happened between the kidnapping and the rescue? Something a doppelganger wouldn't have been able to fake. Not with Somnis' understanding, anyway.
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Post by Vitsheep on May 3, 2017 23:43:31 GMT -5
Profiling! ...Crowfiling. Heh. The mastermind:
- knows Zach and Alice, and probably has some sort of leverage over them. - is definitely aware of the otherworld. - has probably been active in the otherworld since before the story began. - is aware of the investigation team's efforts and identities... or just randomly targeted Karl. To be fair, I might just randomly target Karl if I were a murderer. This could also be knowing them indirectly through Alice and Zach, I suppose...
Moving onto more speculative stuff, they're likely in direct opposition to the guardians. I say this because of a certain guardian helping Somnis. It also seems likely that Karl and Zach were taken in an effort to force the investigation team to confront the gas station guardian - otherwise, there wouldn't be much point in holding them prisoner as long as they did instead of executing them immediately.
Whether they want the investigation team to befriend or destroy the guardians... the latter seems more likely. Leaving Galleon alive may have been the biggest wrench in their plans.
Looking at all that, three prime suspects spring to mind. And I like 1 better than the other 2. Buuuut, like I've said, I could just not know something everyone else does that would eliminate #1, so I'm not saying more.
I also considered one of the guardians may be the murderer, trying to snuff out the other guardians as a power-grab, or to motivate them to go to war with the humans... but...
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